Saturday, November 24, 2007
Toronto Star -- how low can they go?
If you remember a couple of years ago the Star called for the armed over throw of the democratically Ontario Government -- the Harris Tory's. The said this was an op ed piece it just was not in the editorial pages of the Star.
How low can they go -- I am sure once someone takes the Star's advice to heart we will find out. Moron's the lot of them.
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Rush to excessive use of force: Robert Dziekanski
I am a supporter of Police generally, I have a police officer in the family -- this is just wrong however -- very wrong. This was not a taser incident this was manslaughter.
The RCMP's spokesman says not to rush to judgement -- but admits based on the video people will, and frankly they should. The RCMP spokesman says we need to understand what the officers were thinking -- officers that clearly were not trying to communicate with anyone -- the deceased, the spectators, no-one. They obviously decided that this man needed to be tasered in advance of their arrival -- guess they did not expect him to die.
The RCMP can expect another loss in public confidence over this -- the young officer's(Douglas Scott) death in the north will leave the headlines in the next couple of weeks/days -- this incident and video will live on in infamy for years.
There should not just be a coroner's inquest into this, there should be criminal charges laid.
There I have had my say -- must admit I feel no better about it.
Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Mulroney Fiasco -- the bluff or the royal flush?
Now Mr Mulroney did an interesting thing -- he has call for a full public inquiry, something that has shocked parliament hill. He has said and probably rightly so that he will never get out from under the cloud of suspicion without a full airing of events. I can imagine not only are the conservatives a little concerned about this given they are on the eve of an election, but so too are the Liberals, as it has never been revealed how much of the previous investigation was driven by Chretien's hatred for Mulroney and his puppets in the RCMP acting a little KGB like. Also Mulroney is taking aim at the media -- I am assuming the likes of Stevie Cameron and the Toronto Star will also be a little apprehensive as their purported journalism has been little more then rewriting washroom innuendo.
All in all Mulroney may actually get what he is asking for, the public inquiry that is, but sometimes you have to be careful of what you ask for. But then maybe he is a better poker player then we give him credit for.
Thursday, October 25, 2007
taxastrophe
Mr Miller and the other sycophants on city council are a short sighted bunch -- they want the other levels of government to bail them out (I appreciate the argument) but refused to go after the parties during the last election, guess Mr Miller was a little busy at all those green city meetings.
John Tory -- Redux
Had a chat with a Tory insider and they revealed that Tory has a hard time letting go of that back room role -- where you can push an issue, only to have it over ruled by a more street savvy politician. I guess he misses the advice, guidance, decision making for lack of a better description, of the Bill Davis's of the world. I think John has learned its a little tougher out there then he expected, and lets face it I don't think he expected the McGuinty liberals to play to the racist anti-muslim undercurrent in Ontario. But all is fair in love and war and the Liberals capitalised on the anti-Muslim vote -- and got themselves a majority with the support of 21% of the eligible voters. Ain't democracy grand.
Friday, October 12, 2007
51% of eligible voters voted
I am not going to dispute the legitimacy of the Ontario Liberals right to rule -- they won the election based on the rules we have. I disagree with McGuinty that campaigns that call politicians liars, promise breakers et al would convince people not to vote. I mean lets get serious any party that has the Liberal war machine, namely Warren Kinsella and his ilk, behind it -- is going to run negative campaigns. And lets face it negative campaign work.
The disenfranchisement of the voter has to much more than that -- politicians are politicians, some are reptilian in nature others are saints -- most are in between -- they have been like this for centuries, and the public has been aware of it. Why are people refusing to vote? Would love to see some polling on this -- I am assuming it is a lack of a decisive vision for the future -- lets face it most of the policy initiatives across all parties came out of the same photocopier. The futility of voting when people feel nothing substantive is going to change.
The political parties and media also does a piss poor job in educating the voter on the need to vote -- the need to be part of the discussion -- it rather is seen as a closed club, fraught with insiders, full of scandals and graft and frankly from the media pretty poor reporting.
I personally think papers like the Toronto Star further exacerbate the problem with less than ethical reporting -- one sided and inflammatory headlines, bullying people into questioning their convictions and further alienating and marginalizing people who do not fit their narrow view of an idealized Ontarion and thereby increasing apathy and a sense of futility.
But then of course I could be wrong.
Thursday, October 11, 2007
Congratulations to the Ontario Liberals
It will be interesting to see how the Liberals handle the Catholic School funding issue -- not that they will extend to other faiths in the short run -- but they will probably face increased level of scrutiny on the Catholic School funding -- with every silly religion decision made by Catholic Trustees being put on the front page of the newspapers. I would expect we can expect silence from the Liberals on this issue for now -- not sure that will make the issue go away.
The NDP increased their popular vote -- not sure what that will bring, as the Liberals are able to push through or not do whatever they want. I think the PC's and the NDP are going to take on the oppose everything role in the media for the next four years -- and frankly their ability to hold the Liberals to account will be severely muted.
In the mean time we can expect the Status Quo -- as Ontarion's voted for the liberal platform of change -- which was unremarkable -- and steeped in the Status Quo.
Who did I vote for -- and I did vote, I went with the party that most closely matced my liberal social policy/conservative fiscal beliefs -- let you figure that one out.
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Ontario -- don't let others speak for you
Monday, October 8, 2007
"At Catholic schools we learn about God – but public schools worship a different God."
Sunday, October 7, 2007
Competition: News headlines
Couple to ponder:
Tory: Tears of a clown.
Policy, we don't need no stinkin policy
Saturday, October 6, 2007
Scandal in Sarnia -- yes its true
What is not reported is whether the $319 million price tag is for essentially the same project as the $140 million price tag -- been there seen scope creep like crazy -- but then of course we would not have had the headline -- and some reporter would have had to do some investigating. Sounds like work eh. Now the fact the locals will have to raise an additional $30 million because of this is reprehensible -- who ever approved the new figure should pay the cost -- George sounds like it is yours.
What I do find interesting though on the Toronto Star's on line edition the story played prominently yesterday and attributed the story to the NDP -- the story no longer seems to exist on their servers -- looks like a case of pre-election censorship going on.
Friday, October 5, 2007
Howard -- Its the message stupid!
Ontario NDP Leader Howard Hampton: "We've become the child poverty capital of Canada -- don't any of you people (reporters) care? Don't you care that there are seniors living in soiled diapers? Don't you care about that? I'm asking you, 'What do you care about?' That's what I know people care about. These are real issues."
Howard, piece of advice, they would report on other issues if everyone had not kept pandering to the bigotry and racial bias in Ontario and if you had something substantive to say.
Liked the quote from a senior (paraphrased) -- he has trouble voting for the liar or the idiot but wants Hampton to tell him what his platform is instead of just attacking people.
Thursday, October 4, 2007
A vote for Liberals is a Vote for bigotry
While I am rambling how about the following headlines:
1. A vote for McGuinty is a vote for the pope!
2. Its time we elected a papist -- Vote Liberal
3. Hate homosexuals, abortion, want your kids not to use birth control -- vote Liberal
MMP -- referendum time for a choice
The vote needs 60% of Ontarion's to vote (of those who actually vote) in favour of the change for the MMP to be effective for the next election -- four years hence. Just want to make sure everyone understands it is not for this election.
There have been a fair amount of editorials (the Toronto Star in particular)who have railed against this new system -- they feel it is a step backward for democracy and raise the specter of a "Star Chamber" type of government where the will of the public is undercut by non elected party insiders. By the way the Tor Star editorial was factually wrong on a number of counts -- but they are the Star so that would be par for the course.
I really think they need to grow up. The current system of forced compliance to party vote is far more damaging to democracy then MMP would be. Right now a MPP cannot vote against party position in the house without the threat of discipline, the MPP cannot effectively represent their riding -- and from what I have seen the Caucus and decision making is ultimately controlled by a small number of individuals, most of whom are not elected. In addition parties with 5% to 10% of the popular vote and their constituencies are being shut out of the legislature.
I personally think the first past the post system is flawed -- too many seats awarded on a small number of votes. As it is currently designed one seat may be worth 10,000 votes while others are worth 300,000 -- not really fair. In addition being able to have a majority government without the requirement of a majority of the votes is kind of counter intuitive. The current system also marginalizes the smaller parties influence on the government of the day -- NDP, Greens, and the Family Coalition Party come to mind -- a party with 10% of the popular vote may have no seat in the legislature -- that is shutting out a fair amount of the population from the democratic process.
Will I vote for MMP yes -- do I think it will pass no, so why -- well hopefully a large percentage of Ontarion's will vote yes to the referendum -- so in the next election, four years hence, we may actually have another referendum with a properly designed and communicated proposal for electoral reform.
Tuesday, October 2, 2007
PC's -- Slip Sliding Away
McGuinty characterised this strategy as as divisive and that it would take up three years of the legislatures time unnecessarily. Not sure I agree with that, I think any debate where we look at current funding, and the integration of new and existing Canadians into the public school system is of value. The current system is divisive by its very nature, we need to do more to remove barriers to a quality education for all of Ontario's children.
Monday, October 1, 2007
Tory embraces democracy (sort of)
McGuinty replied to this announcement somewhat cynically, and Hampton wants the issue off the table so we can talk about real stuff.
The continuation of funding of the Catholic Schools at the expense of the other religions is pure unbridled bigotry and racism -- don't want those Madrassas set up in Ontario churning out terrorists. Now if they were to take a look at the policies of the Catholic church they may want to revise their stance on funding it -- institutionalised homophobia, unfettered sexism, protection of peadophiles, centuries of crimes against humanity including the recent native schools debacle .. need I continue.
The only real answer is to stop funding all religious schools in Ontario, politically this may not be palatable but at least I am honest.
The Ontario PC's
This Globe and Mail Cartoon really struck home for me. Apparently Tory is now starting to rethink his position on Religious schools -- don't think it will help.
Sunday, September 30, 2007
High Gear -- for a tricycle
The Liberal's seems to recognise their lead and have McGuinty talking about "Canada" issues. He ventured into the realm of foreign takeovers -- interesting territory -- and over the last couple of days has delivered a couple of good speeches -- good for a person who is about as exciting as dry toast. Though I did take exception to have all those new immigrants into the public school system -- oh yeah the one with funding going to the catholics -- yeah thats right.
Tory -- well why bother, religious school funding, privatise parts of health care, beer and wine in the corner store -- right with you bud.
Hampton -- is he campaigning -- oh yes tax the rich.
Miller -- I know he is not campaigning -- but he could actually speak to the candidates and get some attention for Toronto. Guess not too busy flying from conference to conference -- and talking about raising taxes. Idiot!
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Toronto Star -- fundamental and unethical bias
However the Star seems to now have decided that McGuinty needs to be elected at all costs -- including if it means they use propaganda and editorial bias in articles.
Earlier in the campaign after the debate the Star sold the front page of the Metro (one of their papers) to the liberals in a very misleading piece of advertising which looked like a real front page -- in which they proclaimed McGuinty the winner -- sleaze journalism. Can't blame the Liberals -- sleaze electioneering is the name of the game.
Thursday, September 27, 2007
Equal time: Selection of JohnTory ads also some Green Party ads
Like this one, creative
Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Dalton should be cleaning the floor with his opponents
Howard Hampton -- is rolling out nothing new -- had hopes when he started talking about extending dental coverage to children and the $10 minimum wage, I thought we might actually have some new proposals to talk about -- however we have gone back to the old canards of protecting the auto sector, protecting this and that, rolling back this and rolling back that -- the past is a wonderful place to remember -- you tend to forget the imperfections -- however the past is not a place I want to move Ontario forward to.
Dalton what is happening -- you just are not getting the message out. They are handing you this election on a silver platter and the best you can do is talk about a minority government (Harper is at it as well). Smitherman is running around -- well being Smitherman. Where is the campaign? Guess you just need to want it more.
Friday, September 21, 2007
The Debate -- the killer blow
The debate in my opinion plodded on McGuinty being accused of broken promises, McGuinty attacking the former Harris Government and the former NDP government (liked Tory quip on Sir John A), Tory looking very well polished -- not really saying anything (except the broken promise thing), Hampton -- well nice try but really did not seem to even be part of the debate at times.
Now when I call it a debate I am doing so very loosely -- in most cases they did not really answer the questions or debate their answers -- we just went back to broken promises , accusations of negativity, and how terrible previous governments were.
The moderator Steve Paiken did an absolutely terrible job of keeping this anywhere on track -- this needs to be debate -- not a series of quotes for the media.
I am shocked the Toronto Star proclaimed McGuinty the winner based on the fact the other two did not land a killer blow. That unbiased bastion of honest reporting obviously was not in hte washroom with Guido.
In my opinion nobody won -- nor could they have it was not a debate! Guido however .......
Thursday, September 20, 2007
Tory -- trying very hard to lose the election
I think everyone is well aware that these private services are being well provided to all Canadians by our neighbours to the south. Why mess with success? Contrary to public perception it is just not the well heeled, Belinda Stronach comes to mind, that are availing themselves to private healthcare but also the average joe is driving to Buffalo for their knee or hip replacement surgery.
The prices from I understand are reasonable -- fitting on credit cards. The question is why are people doing this considering the enviable state of Canadian Healthcare -- why are people spending their money south of the border -- do they just like the American's so much? More than likely it is the 2 to 3 year process most Canadian must endure to get through the Ontario system -- referrals to specialist who are not taking appointments.
A former colleague of mine went to Buffalo for knee replacement surgery -- he was a practically disabled but could not get a firm date for a replacement in Ontario -- he voted with his chequebook.
But seriously folks in Canada and especially in Ontario you dare not talk about private delivery of healthcare services -- it is political suicide (lets keep those elephants in the closet where they belong). That way we can continue to extol the virtue of our truly public system, apart from those pieces that are already delivered by private firms, and tell the Americans they are philistines for operating a private healthcare system, while still availing ourselves to it. How Canadian!
In truth I think we can learn alot from places like France, Germany and the Netherlands in public/private delivery of Healthcare -- but we first have to get over the hating the American thing.
Monday, September 17, 2007
Off topic But I have to print this
That all being said the text in the email did not have a ring of truth to it -- it was far too strong for a politician to have said -- even an Australian one. Text as it turns out are comments from three separate politicians pasted together completely taken out of context and attributed to Australian Prime Minister John Howard. You can see the urban myth take on the text and the context here.
The text is as follows and message (some may be offended or agree with the below -- personally the intent is what bothers me):
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
The new campaign....... Just like the old one
The PC's seem to be responding to the "Harris legacy" approach however -- their campaign signs and literature don't seem to recognize the PC brand but rather the John Tory brand. The campaign literature I have seen again stresses the the John Tory brand. I am not sure that Tory will win based on the "John Tory" instead of the PC party brand -- and if he doesn't he may actually be harming the party in the future -- one man parties tend to fall out of favour pretty quickly and repositioning the brand back to the party might take more than one subsequent election.
There is also this underlying current of what they did in the past was somehow wrong -- whether you agree the policies and directions of the Harris PC's or not they were elected to two majority governments -- with strong mandates. There are still a large number of Ontarion's who agree with the direction taken, maybe not all of them, but with alot of them. I would marginalize them at your own peril.
Wednesday, September 12, 2007
The hob nailed boot on the back .....
The ads running on youtube are great -- at least we are seeing some creativity in the non-negative campaigning -- and of course everyone cleared the rights for these.
And I really agree with Dalton -- there is no negative campaigning going on -- yes really -- where was that bottle of scotch, going to have a non drink to go with it.
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Its a long way to tipperary, its a long way to go to the sweetest girl I know
Is there a point to this rambling well not really but there has not been much of a point to this election so far -- the Liberals and Tories trying to come up with a wedge issue (Liberals -- preservation of public education, their definition includes Catholic as part of this; the Tories broken promises and leadership of Dalton) the other parties well hate to say it are along for the ride.
The Liberals are starting with the strategic voting approach early to get NDP voters and will probably be backed up by a TV campaign from the Working Families Coalition (AKA Ontario Liberals).
The Tories, well Tory in my opinion is hopeless -- someone needs to work with this man -- drive the message -- don't react to Dalton's.
Howard -- nice man met him a number of times, would I vote for him -- right after hell froze over.
De Jong -- good Dutch name -- got to like that, and yes he should be part of the leadership debate and I have gone green have those really neat new lightbulbs and led lights on my sailboat, however the gas guzzeling SUV I drive probably would entitle me to a good flogging.
Monday, September 10, 2007
Education Minister's riding a beach head riding for education
Liberal and PC fiscal platforms
I personally think the Tories if elected (which I doubt) will stall the elimination of the Health tax draw it out over a few more years to protect their revenue base. It really is not as hot an issue as the politicians think -- it is a construct of the political camps and the media in their need to create issues around the election. To further my point if it had been such a strong voter driven issue -- you really think the Liberals would be saying they cannot afford to get rid of it -- and it needs to stay -- on the eve of an election.
The Toronto Star Editorial board has obviously renewed its Liberal Party Membership based on their September 10 editorial. Their tacit support of the Liberal Fiscal plan is without basis -- not saying the PC one is any better -- the Toronto Star should leave the electioneering to the politicians -- but then it wouldn't be the Toronto Star. Their analysis is a typical slippery slope argument where by challenging one part of the plan the whole world goes to hell in a handbasket.
It does remind me of the time I was in the lock up and had a rather candid conversation with the Toronto Star staff that was there at the time -- (s)he said (s)he had very little freedom in what they wrote, rather (s)he was given the message and then told to fill in the facts to meet the message. I did ask her/him what happens if the facts don't match the message -- well then you don't report the facts. But I digress.
On the issue of efficiencies -- it can easily be done -- without the world coming to an end. Been there done that -- seen where the bodies or in this case money is buried. Cricket anyone?
Saturday, September 8, 2007
Leaders equally Toxic
Thursday, September 6, 2007
Creationism in the schools
Why you ask?
Mr Tory was asked the question whether he thought this would be allowed to be taught in a publically funded school system he said yes, well maybe sort of kind of. The liberals were quick to pounce on this until it was pointed out it is taught in the Ontario Roman Catholic schools (publicly funded), not as part of the curriculum however -- but as part of "religious eduction". Somehow this makes it better -- guess under a religious school -- the religious part should be taken less seriously -- because it of course it is religion, who believes that stuff anyway?
Wednesday, September 5, 2007
Ontario's NDP
That all being said the NDP does tend to have some real gems in their policy platform -- they actually consult with real people -- as compared to the Tories and the Liberals who tend to talk to the same 5 or 6 people and their pollsters and roll it out to their party faithful as the publics latest greatest needs and wants.
As a bureaucrat we routinely borrowed recycled from the NDP platform, added the correct wording made some vague reference to consistency with the Government platform and helped them to make it their own.
The NDP in power is a scary thing -- not because of their platform -- but because they are just not able to make decisions -- everything is done by consensus and takes far too much time -- I actually had to consult with a sowing circle (yes like knitting) out of some small town in Ontario when looking at ag stabilization programs. Very nice people but they had absolutely no idea what they were there for.
The NDP the official supplier of some good policy -- and damn good at it too. Now take this with a grain of salt as some of their ideas were just plain wacky -- take this lets just freeze everything in Ontario back in 2003. Howard needs some better advice.
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
New holiday -- February
Monday, September 3, 2007
Prudent -- what in the name of all that is%^&$# is that for a strategy
McGuinty is rolling out the goodies -- not a day has passed in the last two months that we have not had an announcement for more money for this that or the other thing -- very little policy -- nothing new, just money. To the Liberals credit the voters are buying it -- they recognise the strategy is divisive -- pitting group against group in their struggle to get as much $$ as possible -- but it works. Boy does it work.
I have it on good authority the Tories are going to go negative -- looking for the Achilles heel -- nasty personal attacks on individual senior Ministers -- I also hear the Liberal are not worried -- they know they can sacrifice a few for the greater good -- all the while doling out the goodies and keeping their core team intact.
Boy is this going to be fun.
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Working Families Coalition
The coalition is fronted by a number of unions and liberal party staffers -- and amazingly he says tongue in cheek some of these very organizations got payouts in the latest round of Liberal pork barreling.
My take on this is if looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck -- it probably is a duck.
Guess the provincial Liberals learned a lot at the feet of their master Chretien.
This however will not be resolved during the course of this election -- the liberals are safe for now.
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
Funding for Religious Schools
Interestingly enough I saw a statistic a couple of days ago that 75% of Ontario residents believe in a secular education system. However we also know that 52% of Ontarians list their religion as Catholic -- from a political standpoint you can see why there is going to be no change.
The liberal governments stand on this issue is completely irrational -- and plays the majority against the minorities -- it is alright and non divisive for catholics to be educated in a separate system but not the Jews, Muslims, Hindi, etc would cause a general failure of society as a whole. Personally I think these are cheap political tactics aimed at an underlying mainstream of polite racism.
As i said if I ran the world, or Ontario at least, we would have a secular education system. However I don't and we will end up with a true Ontario compromise -- we will fund everyone -- to some extent at least. However this will not come as a result of this election.
As a friend of mine just reminded me -- when the Liberals came in they canceled the previous conservative governments tax credit for private schools and there was nary a whisper of dissent. The conservatives are very silly to make this a stump issue in this election -- lack of political acuity or just plain desperate.
Background:
Separate school
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A separate school is a publicly funded school which includes religious education in its curriculum, as opposed to a private school or public school.
In Canada these are usually Roman Catholic schools which are run parallel to the public school system which historically had been either Protestant or Roman Catholic, but which in recent years has become secular. The separate schools in Ontario, however, are fully denominational and not secular. In some communities, there is a Separate Protestant school district (board) alongside the public system (and possibly Separate Catholic), but this is generally the exception.
Protection of the Separate School system was a major issue of contention in the negotiations that led to Canadian confederation, due in large part to racial and religious tension between the (largely Francophone) Roman Catholic population in Canada and the Protestant majority. The issue was a subject of debate at the 1864 Quebec Conference and was finally resolved at the London Conference of 1866 with a guarantee to protect the separate school system in Quebec and Ontario.
In the Quebec education system there were separate Protestant and Catholic school systems until 1998 when the system was replaced with linguistically based secular school systems. Similarly, Newfoundland and Labrador had schools organised on a confessional basis with separate denominational schools for Catholics, Seventh-day Adventists, Salvationists, Pentecostals, and an integrated stream. This was abolished by referendum in 1997 and a single secular system was introduced to replace the previous streams.
The question of separate schools has been most controversial in Ontario and Manitoba. The ending of public support for separate schools in the latter province in the 1890s prompted a national crisis known as the Manitoba Schools Question, and led to Pope Leo XIII's papal encyclical Affari Vos.
In Ontario, funding for the Catholic separate school system was initially only guaranteed until grade nine under the British North America (BNA) Act. This funding was gradually extended until 1984 when the government of William Davis extended funding to include the last three (Grades 11-OAC) years of secondary school after having rejected that proposal fifteen years earlier. The historically Protestant system was eventually transformed into the present day public board, and school prayer was banned in the early 1980s.
A province-wide newspaper survey conducted between 1997 and 1999 in 45 dailies indicated that 79% of 7551 respondents in Ontario favoured a single public school system. But rumours that the Catholic Church had instructed its parishioners not to respond to the survey suggest that it may have produced inaccurate results. Regardless of whether the results were accurate or not, no widely supported movement to amend the Constitution Act, 1867 has developed.
In Ontario the only separate schools are Catholic (except for one elementary school in Penetanguishene, Ontario, the Burkevale Protestant Separate School, under the Penetanguishene Protestant Separate School Board, which has no other schools); other faith groups do not receive similar funding. This restriction has often been criticized as contrary to the spirit of official multiculturalism. The provincial policy has been ruled as discriminatory by the Supreme Court of Canada, and on November 5, 1999 the United Nations Human Rights Committee condemned Canada and Ontario for having violating the equality provisions (Article 26) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The Committee restated its concerns on November 2, 2005, when it published its Concluding Observations regarding Canada's fifth periodic report under the Covenant. The Committee observed that Canada had failed to "adopt steps in order to eliminate discrimination on the basis of religion in the funding of schools in Ontario."
In Alberta in some areas that were originally populated by Franco-Albertan French Catholics before the province came into existence, the Catholic church controls the public schools and the separate schools are protestant. This applies to St. Albert and St. Paul.